WDS 61: IS PHYSIOLOGICAL DELAYING THE MESTRUAL-CYCLE IS PATHOGENIC ? by Dr. Namrata Sharma, Dr. Shashi Jindal, Dr. Yogesh Gupta, Dr. Amamika Soni, Dr. Samata Tomar, Dr. Kapil Kapoor & others.
Though this topic is not directly linked to Kayachikitsa but when such practice become a habit the origination of complex pathology occurs. These conditions must be looked into history to eradicate the ailments permanently.
Dr. Surendra A. Soni
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[10/12, 10:59 AM] Dr Vinit Arora:
Dr. Surendra A. Soni
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[10/12, 10:59 AM] Dr Vinit Arora:
ЁЯЩПЁЯЩПЁЯЩПNamaste Gurujan...ЁЯЩПЁЯЩПЁЯЩП
Yestetday a lady came and asked some ayurvedic medicine to delay her menstrual cycle for few days during Navratras, But i could not suggest any sure shot ayurveda drug for this....Can we please discuss if there are any ayurvedic means of delaying this natural process...
[10/12, 11:01 AM] Dr Namrata Sharma:
рдкुрд╖्рдпाрдиुрдЧ рдЪूрд░्рдг+рдиाрдЧрдХेрд╕рд░+рдоंрдЬिрд╖्рдаा+рдпрд╖्рдЯिрдордзु рджूрдз рдХे рд╕ाрде рджेрдиे рд╕े peroids delay рдХिрдП рдЬा рд╕рдХрддे рд╣ैं।рдЕрдиुрднूрдд рд╣ै।
рдЬिрдирдХी рд╡ाрдд рдХрдлрдЬ рдк्рд░рдХृрддि рд╣ो рдЙрдирдоें рддो рдХेрд╡рд▓ рдкुрд╖्рдпाрдиुрдЧ рд╕े рднी periods delay рд╣ो рдЬाрддे рд╣ैं।
[10/12, 11:03 AM] Dr Namrata Sharma:
рд╕ाрде рд╣ी рдЪрди्рджрдирдмрд▓ाрд▓рдХ्рд╖ाрджि рддैрд▓ рдХा рд░ाрдд्рд░ि рдоें рд╢рд░ीрд░ рдкрд░ рд╣рд▓्рдХे рд╣ाрде рд╕े рд▓рдЧाрдиे рдкрд░ рднी periods delay рд╡ाрдд рдХрдлрдЬ рдк्рд░рдХृрддि рдоें рджेрдЦा рд╣ै।
[10/12, 11:03 AM] Dr Yogesh Gupta:
ЁЯЩПЁЯП╗ЁЯЩПЁЯП╗ЁЯЩПЁЯП╗ MAM DOES THIS WORKS ON THE SAME DAY OR TAKES TIME OF 2 - 3 DAYS ...
[10/12, 11:03 AM] Dr Namrata Sharma:
1-1-1 рдЪрдо्рдордЪ рджिрди рдоें 3 рдмाрд░
[10/12, 11:04 AM] Dr Namrata Sharma:
2-3рджिрди рдкрд╣рд▓े рд╕े рджिрдпा рдЬाрдП рддो рдЕрдЪ्рдЫा рд╣ै !
[10/12, 11:04 AM] Dr Vinit Arora: ЁЯСНЁЯСН
[10/12, 11:04 AM] Dr Namrata Sharma:
рдпрджि рд╕рдордп рд╣ो рддो 7 рджिрди рдкрд╣рд▓े рд╣ी рд╕े рд╢ुрд░ू рдХрд░рд╡ा рджें।
[10/12, 11:05 AM] Dr Vinit Arora:
Thank you madam !
[10/12, 11:06 AM] Dr Namrata Sharma:
Same day рджेрдиे рд╕े bleeding рдХी рдоाрдд्рд░ा рдХрдо рд╣ो рдЬाрдПрдЧी рд▓ेрдХिрди рдЙрд╕ी рджिрди рд▓ेрдиे рд╕े рдлाрдпрджा рд╣ोрдиे рдоें рд╕ंрджेрд╣ рд╣ै।
[10/12, 11:08 AM] Prof. KSR Prasad Tachnoayurveda:
A very good question to think for a best answer.
[10/12, 11:09 AM] pawan madan Dr:
Thanks Namarta Ji.
[10/12, 11:09 AM] Dr Yogesh Gupta:
CAN WE ADD KAHARVA PISHTI , SPHATICA BHASMA OR MUKTA PISHTI FOR BETTER RESULTS ...?
[10/12, 11:09 AM] Dr Nikita Kakkad: ЁЯСМ
[10/12, 11:10 AM] Dr Yogesh Gupta:
ALSO MAM WHAT SHOULD BE THE ANUPAN ...
[10/12, 11:10 AM] Dr Namrata Sharma:
рд╣ाँ рдмिрд▓्рдХुрд▓ рдЖрдк рдХो рдЬो рднी рдкिрдд्рдд рд╢ाрдордХ рдЙрдЪिрдд рд▓рдЧрддी рд╣ो рдРрд╕ी рдФрд╖рдзि рдоिрд▓ा рд╕рдХрддे рд╣ैं।
рд╕ुрд╡рд░्рдг рдЧैрд░िрдХ рднी рдоिрд▓ा рд╕рдХрддे рд╣ैं।
[10/12, 11:11 AM] Dr Namrata Sharma:
рдЕрдиुрдкाрди рджूрдз рдпा рдордХ्рдЦрди ।
[10/12, 11:11 AM] Dr Yogesh Gupta:
DURVA SWARAS , DADIM SWARAS ...
[10/12, 11:12 AM] Dr Namrata Sharma: yes
[10/12, 11:13 AM] Dr Yogesh Gupta:
I GENERALLY ADVISE WITH DADIM SWARAS IN CASE OF THREATNED ABORTION OR SUSPECTED CASE OF MISCARRIAGE.
[10/12, 11:22 AM] Dr. Vinay Choudhary:
We should make the pt.aware abt.the myths. After giving Stambhan ur pt. can generate arthava udawartha. Natural urges of apan should not be stopped forcefully or by means of medicine.
[10/12, 11:23 AM] Dr. Devangi Ojha:
Yes i agree with vinay. Pt ko samjhana chahiye ke bar bar aise prayog na kare.
[10/12, 11:24 AM] Samta Tomar Dr Jmngr:
Cause of many upravjanya vyadhis.
[10/12, 11:35 AM] Dr Anamika:
It is not a good practice to postpone natural urges....in my practice I clearly say no to the patient.....
[10/12, 11:46 AM] Samta Tomar Dr Jmngr:
ethical and shuddha chikitsa.
[10/12, 11:48 AM] Dr Shashi Jindal, Chandigarh:
pls share in how many pts., for how many days you have delayed menstruations and got results...?
[10/12, 11:51 AM] Samta Tomar Dr Jmngr:
Postponed or stopped ?
[10/12, 11:53 AM] Dr. Vinay Choudhary: ЁЯСН
[10/12, 11:58 AM] Dr Shashi Jindal, Chandigarh:
sir menstruation is not an urge, nor it can be stopped, not its postponement can cause udavart.
Vaginal orifice is not included in malvahi srotas, and nor menstruation is named as mala.
[10/12, 11:59 AM] Dr Shashi Jindal, Chandigarh:
only secretory changes in endometrium can be prolonged with kaf vardhak aahar vihar and aushadh.
[10/12, 1:01 PM] Dr Namrata Sharma:
рдмिрд▓्рдХुрд▓ sir рдпे рд╕рд╣ी рдирд╣ीं рд╣ै рдХि natural urges рдХो рдЗрди рдк्рд░рдХाрд░ рд░ोрдХा рдЬाрдП।рдпे рдХेрд╡рд▓ рдЙрджाрд╡рд░्рдд рдХो рдирд╣ीं рдмрд▓्рдХि skin disease рдХो рдЬрди्рдо рджे рд╕рдХрддा рд╣ै।рдФрд░ рднी рдХрдИ рдЙрдкрдж्рд░рд╡ рд╣ो рд╕рдХрддे рд╣ैं।
Pt рдХो рдпे рд╕рдордЭрдиा рдмрд╣ुрдд рдЬрд░ूрд░ी рд╣ै рдХि рдХोрдИ рдмрд╣ुрдд рд╣ी рдЖрд╡рд╢्рдпрдХ рдХाрд░्рдп рдХे рд▓िрдП рдЬो рдХि рдЙрдирдХे рдмिрдиा рди рд╣ो рд╕рдХे рдРрд╕ा рд╣ो рддो рд╣ी рд╡ो delay рдХрд░рдиे рдХी рджрд╡ा рд▓ें।
рд▓ेрдХिрди рдпे рдФрд╖рдзिрдпाँ рдЙрди allopathy medicines рдХा рдЬो рдХि hormones рдХे level рдкрд░ рднрдпंрдХрд░ рдк्рд░рднाрд╡ рджिрдЦाрддी рд╣ैं рдПрдХ рдЕрдЪ्рдЫा рдФрд░ рд╕рд╣ी рд╡िрдХрд▓्рдк рдмрди рд╕рдХрддी рд╣ैं।
[10/12, 1:02 PM] Dr Namrata Sharma:
3 рдпा 4 рд╣ी рдРрд╕ी pt рдеी рдЬिрдирдХे рд▓िрдП рдЗрди рдФрд╖рдзिрдпों рдХा рдк्рд░рдпोрдЧ рдХी рдеा sir рдЙрдирдХी рдкूрд░ी рдкрд░िрд╕्рдеिрддिрдпों рдХो рд╕рдордЭ рдХрд░। рдбॉ рд╢рд╢ि рдЬी ।
[10/12, 1:04 PM] Dr Namrata Sharma:
Menstruation рдЗрд╕ delayed upto four to seven days.
[10/12, 1:09 PM] Dr Namrata Sharma:
рднाрд░рддीрдп рд╕рдоाрдЬ рдоें рдЖрдЬ рднी рд╕्рдд्рд░िрдпों рдХो рдмрд╣ुрдд рдХुрдЫ compromise рдХрд░рдиे рдкреЬрддे рд╣ैं।рддो рдЙрдирдХे рд▓िрдП allopathy medicines рдХे рджुрд╖्рдк्рд░рднाрд╡ों рд╕े рдмрдЪрдиे рдХे рд▓िрдП рдпे рдПрдХ рдЕрдЪ्рдЫा рд╡िрдХрд▓्рдк рд╣ै рд▓ेрдХिрди рдХेрд╡рд▓ рдЕрдд्рдпрдзिрдХ рдЖрд╡рд╢्рдпрдХрддा рдХी рд╕्рдеिрддि рдоें рд╣ी।।
[10/12, 1:11 PM] Dr Anamika:
Menstruation is not a natural urge but natural cycle of body......not in patient's control...but my point is that.... doctor also should not manipulate natural cycle..... body's natural cycle will be disturbed.......Vegadharan_adharan principle can be applied on both natural
Urges and cycle.....
[10/12, 1:17 PM] Dr Priy-ranjan Tiwari, Haridwar:
ЁЯСМ it will create aartavavahasrotodusti
[10/12, 1:56 PM] Samta Tomar Dr Jmngr: Also raktaja gulm.
[10/12, 2:06 PM] Dr Surendra A Soni:
Dr NamrataЁЯСМЁЯСНЁЯСП
[10/12, 2:09 PM] Ranvir Rajpurohit Dr: ЁЯЩПЁЯЩПЁЯЩП
[10/12, 2:16 PM] Dr Vijay Manerikar:
12 yrs back I tried Tab raktastambhak of DPL 4/ day, a week before LMP on a stubborn patient and it delayed menses by one week, I believe this rx is many times better than progesterone rx.
[10/12, 4:14 PM] Dr Kapil kapoor:
рдЖрд░्рддрд╡ рдиिрд╖्рдХ्рд░рдордгं рдХ्рд░िрдпा
рдЕрдкाрдирд╕्рдп рдХрд░्рдо ।
If we start the stambhan yoga just few days prior to mentruation then
⚙Because of stambhan of well formed endometrial rakta (which in turn will cause delay or ceasing that menstrual blood from coming out) will definitely cause apana vayu dushti.
if we start stambhana yoga vigorously just after the bleeding phase has stopped, then will work in a different way on the next cycle....
рд░рд╕ाрдд् рд╕्рдд्рд░िрдпा рд░рдХ्рддрдо्
It will cause the less formation of striya raktam , less active, relatively thin endometrium, hence reduction or
Delay or missed periods may occur.
[10/12, 5:04 PM] Dr Nikita Kakkad: ЁЯСНЁЯСМЁЯСМ
[10/12, 5:28 PM] Vd Madhav Patade:
Thought provoking.....
[10/12, 5:36 PM] Dr Sudha Delhi:
Very nicely explained Dr Kapil.
[10/12, 5:38 PM] Dr Sudha Delhi:
A very good alternate to Primault N...
[10/12, 5:38 PM] Dr Sudha Delhi:
Thanks a lot....I needed an option in ayurved...
[10/12, 5:48 PM] Prof Hariom Gupta, Vadodara: ЁЯСМ
[10/12, 7:43 PM] Dr Vinit Arora: ЁЯСНЁЯСНЁЯСН
[10/12, 8:18 PM] Janardan Hebbar Dr:
Himalaya styplon + Ashokarishta.
[10/12, 8:40 PM] Ranvir Rajpurohit Dr:
рдмाрд░ рдмाрд░ рдЖрд░्рддрд╡ рдХे рд╕्рддрдо्рднрди рдХрд░рдиे рд╕े рд░рдХ्рдд рдЧुрд▓्рдо рд╣ोрдиे рдХी рд╕рдо्рднाрд╡рдиा рдмреЭ рд╕рдХрддी рд╣ै। рдпрд╣ рд░рдХ्рддрдЬ рдЧुрд▓्рдордирдХ рдиिрджाрди рд╣ै।ЁЯЩП
[10/12, 8:46 PM] Ranvir Rajpurohit Dr:
рдордзु,рдордзुрдХ,рдХुंрдХुрдо,рдоोрдЪрд░рд╕, рдоृрддрдХрдкाрд▓, рд▓ोрдз्рд░,рдЧेрд░ू,рдк्рд░िрдпंрдЧु,рд╢рд░्рдХрд░ा,рд▓ाрдЬा рдХो рдЖрдЪाрд░्рдп рдЪрд░рдХ рдиे рд╢ोрдгिрддрд╕्рдеाрдкрди рдорд╣ा рдХрд╖ाрдп рдХे рд░ूрдк рдоें рд╡рд░्рдгिрдд рдХिрдпा рд╣ै। рдХ्рдпा рдЗрдирдХा рдЙрдкрдпोрдЧ рдЖрд░्рддрд╡ рдк्рд░рд╡рд░्рддि рдХो рд░ोрдХрдиे рдоें рдирд╣ी рдХिрдпा рдЬा рд╕рдХрддा ?ЁЯЩПЁЯЩП
[10/12, 9:05 PM] Samta Tomar Dr Jmngr:
Mochras and lodhra to hota Hi hai...
[10/12, 9:07 PM] Dr Shashi Jindal, Chandigarh:
Sir I think.....
1.Stambhak aahar vihar aushadh after D26 ie after collapse of corpus luteum(progestrone withdrawl) can be more harmful.
2.Drugs used from D16 support corpus luteum and postepone menstruation.
otherwise also it is not for regular use.
[10/12, 9:08 PM] Ranvir Rajpurohit Dr: ЁЯЩПЁЯЩП
[10/12, 9:11 PM] Dr Amol kadu NIA, Jaipur: ЁЯСН
[10/12, 11:08 PM] Bhushan bhakad Vd. Nasik:
рдоुрдЭे рд▓рдЧрддा рд╣ै рдпрд╣ рдзाрддु рдк्рд░рджूрд╖рдХ рдЪिрдХिрдд्рд╕ा рд╣ोрддी рд╣ै рдЗрд╕рд▓िрдП рдЙрд╕рдХा рд╕ीрдзा рд╡рд░्рдгрди рдирд╣ि рд╣ै рдФрд░ рдРрд╕ी рдЪिрдХिрдд्рд╕ा рдХрд░рдиी рднी рдирд╣ी рдЪाрд╣िрдпे।
[10/13, 4:42 AM] Dr Shashi Jindal, Chandigarh:
sir all contraceptives, (for male or female), abortifacients etc. are dhatuprdushak, we donot want to promote all these, but some times professional have to...
[10/13, 4:44 AM] Dr Shashi Jindal, Chandigarh:
so need of the time is choose best effective with low side effects.
[10/13, 4:47 AM] Dr Shashi Jindal, Chandigarh:
I have only used progestogens, these donot show visible side effects, can be used in very calculative way.
[10/13, 10:21 AM] Dr Namrata Sharma:
рдмिрд▓्рдХुрд▓ рд╕िрд░ рд╕рд╣ी рдпुрдХ्рддि рдХा рдк्рд░рдпोрдЧ рдХрд░рдХे рдЕрдд्рдпрдзिрдХ рдЖрд░्рддрд╡ рдоें рдХिрдЖ рдЬा рд╕рдХрддा рд╣ै।рдЙрди्рд╣ोंрдиे рд╢ोрдгिрдд рд╕्рдеाрдкрди рдХрд╣ा рд╣ै рд╢ोрдгिрдд рд╕्рддंрднрди рдирд╣ीं।рд╕्рдеाрдкрди рдХा рдЕрд░्рде рдпे рднी рд╣ो рд╕рдХрддा рд╣ै рдХि рд░рдХ्рдд рдХी рджुрд╖्рдЯि рдХिрдП рдмिрдиा рдЙрд╕рдХे рдЙрдЪिрдд рд╕्рдеाрди рдоें рдЙрд╕े рдкрд╣ुँрдЪा рджेрдиा।
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M.D.,PhD (KC)
Associate Professor
Dept. of Kaya-chikitsa
Govt. Ayurveda College
Vadodara Gujarat, India.
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