WDS-106: A Short discussion on 'Sitopaladi-churna' & 'Talishadi-churna' by Vaidyaraja Subhash Sharma, Prof. Giriraj Sharma, Dr. Pawan Madan, Prof. Satish Panda, Prof. Mamata Bhagwat, Dr. Rajanish Pathak, Dr. Pravin Madikonda, Vd. Bharat Padhar, Dr. Ajit kumar Ojha & others
[10/9, 9:49 PM] Dr. Ajit Kumar Ojha:
рдЧुрд░ूрд╡рд░, рдоिрдд्рд░ों рд╕े рдиिрд╡ेрджрди рд╣ै рд╕िрддोрдкрд▓ाрджि, рддाрд▓ीрд╕ाрджि рдХे рд╡िрднिрди्рди рд╕ंрдк्рд░ाрдк्рддि рдЕрдиुрд╕ाрд░ рдЕрдиुрднрд╡ рд╕ाрдЭा рдХрд░ рдоाрд░्рдЧрджрд░्рд╢рди рджें ЁЯЩПЁЯП╗ЁЯЩПЁЯП╗
[10/9, 9:56 PM] Prof. Satish Panda K. C:
The main ingredients of Talisadi Churna are Pippali, Sonth, Black pepper and Talispatra.
Mainly useful in productive cough.
Sitopaladi mainly useful in dry cough.
[10/9, 10:01 PM] Dr Rajanish Pathak:
Mostly I have used Talisadi in chronic allergic n dry cough.. Even in atopic variety of cough, sneezing
Sitopaladi ghrit k sath in dry cough & with honey n tankan in wet cough ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯШМЁЯШМЁЯШК
Anupan bhed se avashyakta evam samprapti bhed anusar prayog uttam hota hai.....
[10/9, 10:08 PM] Vd Kashinath Samgadi:
Sitophaladi act as mucolytic so best in vata pradhan kasa / dry cough.
where as Talisadi like expectorant ao best in kapha pradhan for lekhana of kapha.
[10/9, 10:10 PM] Dr. Namadhar Sharma, Delhi.:
Sitophaladi with kanthkari avaleha best result in dry Kasa...
[10/9, 10:11 PM] Dr Rajanish Pathak:
In COPD cases.... Talisadi has nice result... Along with sirisadi kashaya.
[10/9, 10:12 PM] Dr Bharat Padhar, Jaipur:
Sitopaladi for pita raktaj dominant symptoms associated with Kaas,While Talishadi for Kapha dominant symptoms associated with Kaas, if association of Pitta with Vata anupan should be ghrit. If association of Kapha with Vata or pit anupan should be Madhu.
[10/9, 10:13 PM] Prof. Surendra A. Soni:
Please ask specific point of confusion. Where do you feel problem...?
If you have any experience successful or unsuccessful
, please share that..
It's better to understand samprapti first then drugs ?
[10/9, 10:15 PM] Dr Rajanish Pathak:
In Hemoptesis & urahkshat along with vasaavaleh better respond . Mostly in rajyakshma cases.
[10/9, 10:23 PM] Prof Giriraj Sharma:
рд╕िрддोрдкрд▓ाрджि рдЪूрд░्рдг рдХा рдк्рд░рдпोрдЧ рд╢ाрд╕्рдд्рд░ рд╕рдо्рдордд рдЕрдиुрдкाрди рд╡िрд╢ेрд╖ рдПрд╡ं рдоाрдд्рд░ा рд╡िрд╢ेрд╖ рд╕े рд╢ाрд╕्рдд्рд░ рдоें рдЙрд▓्рд▓ेрдЦिрдд рд╣ै ।
рдкрд░рди्рддु Antaacid рдХे рд░ूрдк рдоें рдк्рд░ाрдпः рдк्рд░рдпुрдХ्рдд рдХрд░рддा рд╣ूँ рд╡िрд╢ेрд╖рдХрд░
gastro-oesophageal reflux related cough рдХे рд▓िрдП рднी рдк्рд░рдпोрдЧ рдХрд░рддा рд╣ूँ । рдЖрд╢ाрддीрдд рд▓ाрдн рдоिрд▓рддे рд╣ै ।
ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯМ╖ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝
рдкрд░рди्рддु Antaacid рдХे рд░ूрдк рдоें рдк्рд░ाрдпः рдк्рд░рдпुрдХ्рдд рдХрд░рддा рд╣ूँ рд╡िрд╢ेрд╖рдХрд░
gastro-oesophageal reflux related cough рдХे рд▓िрдП рднी рдк्рд░рдпोрдЧ рдХрд░рддा рд╣ूँ । рдЖрд╢ाрддीрдд рд▓ाрдн рдоिрд▓рддे рд╣ै ।
ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯМ╖ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝
[10/9, 10:27 PM] Dr Rajanish Pathak:
But some patients complained that they felt burning sensation..... In that I have used ghrit.
[10/9, 10:27 PM] Dr. Digvijay Singh:
рд╕िрддोрдкрд▓ाрджि рдХी рдлрд▓рд╢्рд░ुрддि рдоैं рдкाрдж рддрд▓ рджाрд╣ рднी рд▓िрдЦा рд╣ै ।
рдЗрд╕рдХो рдХिрд╕ рдкрд░िрдк्рд░ेрдХ्рд╖्рдп рдоै рд╕рдордЬрдиा рдЪाрд╣िрдП ЁЯЩПЁЯП╗
рдЗрд╕рдХो рдХिрд╕ рдкрд░िрдк्рд░ेрдХ्рд╖्рдп рдоै рд╕рдордЬрдиा рдЪाрд╣िрдП ЁЯЩПЁЯП╗
[10/9, 10:27 PM] pawan madan Dr:
TALISHADI CHURAN
INGREDIENTS
TALISH – ABBIES WEBIANA .. 1 PART
SAUNTH – ZINGIBER OFFICINALIS .. 2 PARTS
MARICH – PIPER NIGRUM .. 3 PARTS
PEEPAL – PIPER LONGUM .. 4 PARTS
VANSHLOCHAN – 2 PARTS
CHOTI ILLIACHI – ELA CARDAMOM .. 6 PARTS
DALCHINI – CINNAMOMUM VARUM – 6 PARTS
INDICATIONS …
KAASA
AGNIMAANDYA
GRAHNI
JEERNA JWARA
USES..
…very useful in all types of cough
…can be used in all KAPHA VRIDHI JANYA cough and chest infections
…useful in cases of indigestion due to excessive KAPHA VRIDHI
…effective in many types of cases of IBS
DOSES ..
3-5 gms two or three times a day with war water or with honey
ЁЯТРЁЯЩПЁЯТР
[10/9, 10:28 PM] Dr Harsh Kishore:
INGREDIENTS
TALISH – ABBIES WEBIANA .. 1 PART
SAUNTH – ZINGIBER OFFICINALIS .. 2 PARTS
MARICH – PIPER NIGRUM .. 3 PARTS
PEEPAL – PIPER LONGUM .. 4 PARTS
VANSHLOCHAN – 2 PARTS
CHOTI ILLIACHI – ELA CARDAMOM .. 6 PARTS
DALCHINI – CINNAMOMUM VARUM – 6 PARTS
INDICATIONS …
KAASA
AGNIMAANDYA
GRAHNI
JEERNA JWARA
USES..
…very useful in all types of cough
…can be used in all KAPHA VRIDHI JANYA cough and chest infections
…useful in cases of indigestion due to excessive KAPHA VRIDHI
…effective in many types of cases of IBS
DOSES ..
3-5 gms two or three times a day with war water or with honey
ЁЯТРЁЯЩПЁЯТР
[10/9, 10:28 PM] Dr Harsh Kishore:
рд╕िрддोрдкрд▓ाрджि churna ka prayog haathon aur pairon kisi jalan me bhi maine kiya hai... Having good results...
[10/9, 10:28 PM] Prof. Deep Narayan Pandey:
рд╡ाрд╣ рдЧрдЬрдм рдХी рдЬाрдирдХाрд░ी
ЁЯСМЁЯСМЁЯСМ
ЁЯСМЁЯСМЁЯСМ
[10/9, 10:28 PM] pawan madan Dr:
ЁЯСМЁЯП╗ЁЯСМЁЯП╗ЁЯСМЁЯП╗
рдФрд░ рдпे рд╕ाрд░्рд╡рджैрд╣िрдХ рджाрд╣ рдоें рднी рдмрд╣ुрдд рдЙрдкрдпोрдЧी рд╣ै
рдФрд░ рдпे рд╕ाрд░्рд╡рджैрд╣िрдХ рджाрд╣ рдоें рднी рдмрд╣ुрдд рдЙрдкрдпोрдЧी рд╣ै
[10/9, 10:29 PM] Prof. Deep Narayan Pandey:
рдмेрд╣рдж рдЙрдкрдпोрдЧी рддрде्рдп
ЁЯСМЁЯСМЁЯСМ
рдЗрд╕ рдпोрдЧ рдХा рдпрд╣ рдк्рд░рдпोрдЧ рдоेрд░े рдз्рдпाрди рдоें рдирд╣ीं рдеा।
ЁЯСМЁЯСМЁЯСМ
рдЗрд╕ рдпोрдЧ рдХा рдпрд╣ рдк्рд░рдпोрдЧ рдоेрд░े рдз्рдпाрди рдоें рдирд╣ीं рдеा।
[10/9, 10:29 PM] pawan madan Dr:
ЁЯСНЁЯП╗ЁЯСНЁЯП╗ЁЯСНЁЯП╗
рд╕рд╣ी рдХрд╣ा рд╣рд░्рд╖ рдЬी।।।
рд╕рд╣ी рдХрд╣ा рд╣рд░्рд╖ рдЬी।।।
[10/9, 10:29 PM] Dr Rajanish Pathak:
Some vaidya use it in excessive sweating in hand cases with misri plus ghrita.
[10/9, 10:29 PM] Dr Harsh Kishore:
Thanks Pawan sir... Aapne hi bataya tha ye prayog... ЁЯЩПЁЯЩПЁЯЩП
[10/9, 10:30 PM] pawan madan Dr:
рдЙрдкрдпोрдЧी рд╣ै рдк्рд░ैрдХ्рдЯिрдХрд▓ी
[10/9, 10:31 PM] Dr. Digvijay Singh:
рдЬी рд╕рд░ ।
рдоैрдиे рджिрдпा рд╣ै рдФрд░ рдкрд░िрдгाрдо рднी рдоिрд▓े рд╣ै рдкрд░ рдЗрд╕рдХा рдХाрд░рдоुрдХрдд्рд╡ рдаीрдХ рддрд░ीрдХे рд╕े рд╕рдордЬ рдирд╣ी рдкाрдпा рд╣ूं l
рдоैрдиे рджिрдпा рд╣ै рдФрд░ рдкрд░िрдгाрдо рднी рдоिрд▓े рд╣ै рдкрд░ рдЗрд╕рдХा рдХाрд░рдоुрдХрдд्рд╡ рдаीрдХ рддрд░ीрдХे рд╕े рд╕рдордЬ рдирд╣ी рдкाрдпा рд╣ूं l
[10/9, 10:33 PM] Dr Rajanish Pathak:
I have used on behalf of my guru Ji in UG sampoornanand university Ayurveda college... He used this preparation in hypoglycemic based sweating n idiopathic sweating, burning cases.
[10/9, 10:33 PM] Prof. Surendra A. Soni:
Probably Banshalochan is mainly responsible....
[10/9, 10:33 PM] Dr Bharat Padhar, Jaipur:
It provides relief in Hast Pad daah...if it's due to ashay Apakarsh janya pathogenesis...Not in all types of Pad Hast Daah.
[10/9, 10:34 PM] pawan madan Dr:
рд╕िрддोрдкрд▓ाрджि
рдоिрд╢्рд░ी 16
рд╡ंрд╢рд▓ोрдЪрди 8
рдкिрдк्рдкрд▓ी 4
рдЫोрдЯी рдЗрд▓्рд▓िрдпाрдЪी 2
рджाрд▓рдЪीрдиी 1
рдб्рд░ाрдИ рдЦांрд╕ी рдоें рдк्рд░рд╡ाрд▓ рдкिрд╖्рдЯी рдХे рд╕ाрде рдордзु рдоिрд▓ा рдХрд░.....рдЙрдд्рдХृрд╖्рдЯ
рдЕрдн्рд░рдХ рдПрд╡ं рдк्рд░рд╡ाрд▓ рдкिрд╖्рдЯी рдХे рд╕ाрде рдЧрд░्рднिрдгी рдоें рдмрдЪ्рдЪे рдХे рдЙрдд्рдХृрд╖्рдЯ рд╡िрдХाрд╕ рдХे рд▓िрдП।।
рдоिрд╢्рд░ी 16
рд╡ंрд╢рд▓ोрдЪрди 8
рдкिрдк्рдкрд▓ी 4
рдЫोрдЯी рдЗрд▓्рд▓िрдпाрдЪी 2
рджाрд▓рдЪीрдиी 1
рдб्рд░ाрдИ рдЦांрд╕ी рдоें рдк्рд░рд╡ाрд▓ рдкिрд╖्рдЯी рдХे рд╕ाрде рдордзु рдоिрд▓ा рдХрд░.....рдЙрдд्рдХृрд╖्рдЯ
рдЕрдн्рд░рдХ рдПрд╡ं рдк्рд░рд╡ाрд▓ рдкिрд╖्рдЯी рдХे рд╕ाрде рдЧрд░्рднिрдгी рдоें рдмрдЪ्рдЪे рдХे рдЙрдд्рдХृрд╖्рдЯ рд╡िрдХाрд╕ рдХे рд▓िрдП।।
[10/9, 10:34 PM] Dr Rajanish Pathak:
Is it helpful in peripheral neuropathy symptoms sir ??
[10/9, 10:34 PM] Prof. Surendra A. Soni:
PerfectЁЯСМЁЯП╗ЁЯСНЁЯП╗
[10/9, 10:35 PM] pawan madan Dr:
рдпे рдмреЭिрдпा рдкिрдд्рддрд╢рдорди рдХрд░рддा рд╣ै।
рд╡िрд╢ेрд╖рдд рдЬрдм рдкिрдд्рдд рдХे рдЙрд╖्рдг рдПрд╡ं рддीрдХ्рд╖्рдг рдЧुрди рджोрдиो рдмреЭे рд╣ुрдП рд╣ो...
рд╡िрд╢ेрд╖рдд рдЬрдм рдкिрдд्рдд рдХे рдЙрд╖्рдг рдПрд╡ं рддीрдХ्рд╖्рдг рдЧुрди рджोрдиो рдмреЭे рд╣ुрдП рд╣ो...
[10/9, 10:36 PM] Dr Rajanish Pathak:
Now a days, pure banslochan not found in market for self preparation....
[10/9, 10:36 PM] Prof. Surendra A. Soni:
[10/9, 10:36 PM] Prof. Surendra A. Soni:
May be pure banshalochan alone....
Peripheral neuropathy is also a type of reactive aashayapakarsha of pitta due to shleshm dhatukshaya....
Peripheral neuropathy is also a type of reactive aashayapakarsha of pitta due to shleshm dhatukshaya....
рдЕрд▓्рдк рдоाрдд्рд░ा рдоें рджीрд░्рдШрдХाрд▓ рддрдХ рд░рд╕ाрдпрди рдХे рд░ूрдк рдоें рдзाрддुрдУं рд╕्рдеिрдд рдЕрдЧ्рдиि рдХो рдаीрдХ рдХрд░рддा рд╣ै ।
[10/9, 10:42 PM] Dr Rahul Pathania:
Applying go-navneet mixed in salt also gives relief in paad daah but how, this may be told by scholars of the groupЁЯЩПЁЯП╗
[10/9, 10:46 PM] Dr. Ajit Kumar Ojha:
рдЗрди рд░ोрдЧिрдпों рдХो рдЕрдЪ्рдЫे рдкрд░िрдгाрдо рдоिрд▓рддे рд╣ैं, рдЬिрди рд░ोрдЧिрдпों рдХो рд╕ुрдмрд╣ рдЙрдардиे рдХे рдмाрдж рджुрд░्рдмрд▓рддा рдорд╣рд╕ूрд╕ рд╣ोрддी рд╣ै рдЙрдирдоें рднी рдЙрдд्рддрдо рд╣ै l
[10/9, 10:50 PM] Prof Giriraj Sharma:
рдоुंрд╣ рдкрд░ рдЫाрдпा (рди्рдпрдЫ, рд╡्рдпंрдЧ рдЖрджि) рдоें рднी рд╕िрддोрдкрд▓ाрджि рдЪूрд░्рдг рдХा рдк्рд░рдпोрдЧ рднी рдХिрдпा рдЬाрддा рд╣ै ।
[10/9, 10:51 PM] Dr Harsh Kishore:
Ye ek nayi jaankari hai... Kabhi prayog nahi kiya... DhanyawadЁЯЩПЁЯЩПЁЯЩП
[10/9, 10:52 PM] pawan madan Dr:
рдпрджि рдпे рд╡्рдпंрдЧ рдЫाрдИ рдЖрджि рдкिрдд्рдд рд╡ृрдж्рдзि рдХे рдХाрд░рдг рд╣ै рддो рдЕрд╡рд╢्рдп рдЙрдкрдпोрдЧी рд╣ोрдиा рдЪाрд╣िрдП l
[10/9, 10:52 PM] Prof Giriraj Sharma:
рд╡िрд╢ेрд╖рдХрд░ рдЧрд░्рднрдгी рд╕्рдд्рд░ी рдоें ,,,
рд╢ाрдпрдж рдХेрд▓्рд╕िрдпрдо рдХी рдоाрдд्рд░ा рдХे рдкрд░िрдкेрдХ्рд╖्рдп рдоें рд╡ंрд╢рд▓ोрдЪрди рдХेрд▓्рд╕िрдпрдо рдХा рдЕрдЪ्рдЫा рд╕्рд░ोрдд рд╣ै ।
ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯМ╖ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝
рд╢ाрдпрдж рдХेрд▓्рд╕िрдпрдо рдХी рдоाрдд्рд░ा рдХे рдкрд░िрдкेрдХ्рд╖्рдп рдоें рд╡ंрд╢рд▓ोрдЪрди рдХेрд▓्рд╕िрдпрдо рдХा рдЕрдЪ्рдЫा рд╕्рд░ोрдд рд╣ै ।
ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯМ╖ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝
[10/9, 10:53 PM] Prof Mamata Bhagwat:
Talisadi is a special indication in Kaphaja kasa. So it's action is predominantly mucolytic. Indications like jeerna jwara, agnimandya are also suggestive of its ability to do Sroto shodhana action.
In Sitopaladi,
Sita pippali, vamshalochana like ingredients are Vata kapha hara.
Addition of Sita is making it madhura also. Vataja kasa, rajayakshma where in dhatukshaya are present, it's the best indicated combination. It does Kshati poorana also.
In Sitopaladi,
Sita pippali, vamshalochana like ingredients are Vata kapha hara.
Addition of Sita is making it madhura also. Vataja kasa, rajayakshma where in dhatukshaya are present, it's the best indicated combination. It does Kshati poorana also.
[10/9, 10:55 PM] Dr Harsh Kishore:
Parantu asli vamshalochan aajkal milta hi kahan hai sir.... Ek senior ayurvedagya ne vanshlochan ke sthan par tulsi beej use karne ke liye bataya hai... Unka swanubhut prayog hai...
[10/9, 10:56 PM] Prof. Satish Panda K. C:
Rightly presume...
[10/9, 10:58 PM] Prof Giriraj Sharma:
рдФрд╖рдз рдХी рдЧुрдгрд╡рдд्рддा рдПрд╡ं рд╡िрдХрд▓्рдк рдЕрди्рдп рд╡िрд╖рдп рд╣ै ।
ЁЯМ╖ЁЯМ╖ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯМ╖ЁЯМ╖
ЁЯМ╖ЁЯМ╖ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯМ╖ЁЯМ╖
[10/9, 11:11 PM] Dr Divyesh Desai:
рд╕िрддोрдкрд▓ाрджि/рд╡ाрд╕ा/рдоुрдХ्рддाрдкिрд╖्рдЯी рдШी рдХे рд╕ाрде рд▓ेрдиे рд╕े рдкिрдд्рддрдЬ рдХाрд╕/ рд░рдХ्рддрд╖्рдаिрд╡рди/рд░ाрдЬрдпрдХ्рд╖्рдоा/рдЕрди्рди рдирд▓ी рд╢ोрде(variecis рдм्рд▓ीрдбिंрдЧ)рдоें рдХाрдлी рд▓ाрднрджाрдпрдХ рд╣ै।рдпे рдХॉрдо्рдмिрдиेрд╢рди рд╕े рд░ाрдЬрдпрдХ्рд╖्рдоा рдоें рдЬिрд╕рдХा weight рдХрдо рд╣ो рдЧрдпा рд╣ै рдЗрд╕рдХा wt рднी рдЬрд▓्рджी рдмреЭрддा рд╣ै।।
рдЬрдп рдЖрдпुрд░्рд╡ेрдж, рдЬрдп рдзрди्рд╡ंрддрд░ि l
рдЬрдп рдЖрдпुрд░्рд╡ेрдж, рдЬрдп рдзрди्рд╡ंрддрд░ि l
[10/9, 11:16 PM] Dr Ankur Sharma, Delhi:
Hempotysis me sir
Chandramrit ras (vasa containing )
Kahrawa pisthi
Aacha benefit degi...
Chandramrit ras (vasa containing )
Kahrawa pisthi
Aacha benefit degi...
[10/9, 11:17 PM] Dr Divyesh Desai:
рд╕ाрде рдоे рд╢ोрдгिрдд рдЖрд░्рдЧрд▓ рд░рд╕ use рдХрд░рддा рд╣ूँ short time рдХे рд▓िрдП।
[10/10, 12:59 AM] Dr Vinod Mittar, Bhiwani:
Very useful in hastpad tal dah with ushir syp.
[10/10, 6:11 AM] pawan madan Dr:
рддाрд▓िрд╢ाрджि рдПрд╡ं рд╕िрддोрдкрд▓ाрджि рджोрдиो рдХा рдХाрд░्рдп рдХ्рд╖ेрдд्рд░ рд▓рдЧрднрдЧ рдПрдХ рдЬैрд╕ा рд╣ै рдкрд░ рдоोрдЯे рддौрд░ рдкрд░ рдЬрдм рд╡्рдпрдХ्рддि рдХрдлрдЬ рдк्рд░рдХृрддि рдХा рд╣ो рддो рддाрд▓िрд╢ाрджि рдПрд╡ं рдЬрдм рдк्рд░рдХृрддि рджोрд╖ рдЕрд╡рд╕्рдеा рд╕рдм рдкिрдд्рдд рд╡ृрдж्рдзि рдХी рдФрд░ рдЗंрдЧिрдд рдХрд░े рддो рд╕िрддोрдкрд▓ाрджि рдЬ्рдпाрджा рд▓ाрднрдХाрд░ी рд░рд╣ेрдЧा।
ЁЯЩПЁЯЩП
ЁЯЩПЁЯЩП
[10/10, 6:13 AM] Dr Shashi Jindal:
yes
vaatkafj & vaatpittaj we should say ?
but taalishadi has 32 tola mishri, and sitopladi 16 tola mishri, taalishadi is also effective in pitt vikriti.
vaatkafj & vaatpittaj we should say ?
but taalishadi has 32 tola mishri, and sitopladi 16 tola mishri, taalishadi is also effective in pitt vikriti.
[10/10, 6:22 AM] pawan madan Dr:
рдХृрдкрдпा рдЖрдк рдпोрдЧ рдХे рд╕рдо्рдоिрд▓िрдд рдк्рд░рднाрд╡ рдХो рджेрдЦें।
рдпे рднी рджेрдЦे рдХे рддाрд▓िрд╢ाрджि рдоें рдХрдЯु рдж्рд░рд╡्рдп рдЕрдд्рдпрдзिрдХ рд╣ैं।
рдЬैрд╕े рд░рд╕ рд╕िंрджूрд░ рдкिрдд्рддрд╡рд░्рдзрдХ рд╣ोрддे рд╣ुрдП рднी рднी рд╢ोрдгिрдд рдЕрд░्рдЧрд▓ рдоें рд╕рдо्рдоिрд▓िрдд рд░ूрдк рд╕े рд░рдХ्рдд рдкिрдд्рдд рд╢ाрдордХ рдк्рд░рднाрд╡ рджेрдиे рдоें рд╕рд╣ाрдпрдХ рд░рд╣рддा рд╣ै।
рдКрдкрд░ рдк्рд░ोрдлेрд╕рд░ рд╕рддीрд╢ рдЬी рдХी рдкोрд╕्рдЯ рджेрдЦें
ЁЯЩПЁЯЩП
рдпे рднी рджेрдЦे рдХे рддाрд▓िрд╢ाрджि рдоें рдХрдЯु рдж्рд░рд╡्рдп рдЕрдд्рдпрдзिрдХ рд╣ैं।
рдЬैрд╕े рд░рд╕ рд╕िंрджूрд░ рдкिрдд्рддрд╡рд░्рдзрдХ рд╣ोрддे рд╣ुрдП рднी рднी рд╢ोрдгिрдд рдЕрд░्рдЧрд▓ рдоें рд╕рдо्рдоिрд▓िрдд рд░ूрдк рд╕े рд░рдХ्рдд рдкिрдд्рдд рд╢ाрдордХ рдк्рд░рднाрд╡ рджेрдиे рдоें рд╕рд╣ाрдпрдХ рд░рд╣рддा рд╣ै।
рдКрдкрд░ рдк्рд░ोрдлेрд╕рд░ рд╕рддीрд╢ рдЬी рдХी рдкोрд╕्рдЯ рджेрдЦें
ЁЯЩПЁЯЩП
[10/10, 6:44 AM] Dr Shashi Jindal:
right sir
ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ aam pachak effect is more with taalishadi churan than sitopladi churan. ЁЯСНЁЯП╝
ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ aam pachak effect is more with taalishadi churan than sitopladi churan. ЁЯСНЁЯП╝
[10/10, 7:02 AM] Dr Praveen Madikonda Ji:
ЁЯЩПBoth Talisadi and sitopaladi are indicated in Rajayakshma, thus both are effective in kasa and kapha dosha.
Talisadi churna should be used where kasa is associated with GIT symptoms like atisara, grahani. Talisadi as a compound preparation possess better grahi property when compared to sitopaladi. Clinically also It was observed to be effective in a mrudu kosta individuals.
Although both are effective in agnimandya, talisadi is superior to sitopaladi in as an appetizer. (рддाрд▓ीрд╢ाрдж्рдпं ………..рдЪूрд░्рдгंрджीрдкрдиं рдкрд░рдо्||резрекрем||рд╣ृрдд्рдкाрдг्рдбुрдЧ्рд░рд╣рдгीрджोрд╖)
Sitopaladi churna on the other side, apart from being effective in kaphaja kasa, is also good in parshshoola (cough associated with chest pain/conditions like acute bronchitis/pneumonia ) and supta jihva, which makes it more kapha-vatahara?? (рдХाрд╕рдХрдлाрддुрд░рдо् [рез] |
(рд╕ुрдк्рддрдЬिрд╣्рд╡ा---- рдкाрд░्рд╢्рд╡рд╢ूрд▓िрдирдо्) ЁЯЩП
Talisadi churna should be used where kasa is associated with GIT symptoms like atisara, grahani. Talisadi as a compound preparation possess better grahi property when compared to sitopaladi. Clinically also It was observed to be effective in a mrudu kosta individuals.
Although both are effective in agnimandya, talisadi is superior to sitopaladi in as an appetizer. (рддाрд▓ीрд╢ाрдж्рдпं ………..рдЪूрд░्рдгंрджीрдкрдиं рдкрд░рдо्||резрекрем||рд╣ृрдд्рдкाрдг्рдбुрдЧ्рд░рд╣рдгीрджोрд╖)
Sitopaladi churna on the other side, apart from being effective in kaphaja kasa, is also good in parshshoola (cough associated with chest pain/conditions like acute bronchitis/pneumonia ) and supta jihva, which makes it more kapha-vatahara?? (рдХाрд╕рдХрдлाрддुрд░рдо् [рез] |
(рд╕ुрдк्рддрдЬिрд╣्рд╡ा---- рдкाрд░्рд╢्рд╡рд╢ूрд▓िрдирдо्) ЁЯЩП
[10/10, 7:04 AM] Dr Shashi Jindal: ЁЯСНЁЯП╝ЁЯСМЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯТР
[10/10, 7:06 AM] Dr. Ajit Kumar Ojha: ЁЯЩПЁЯП╗ЁЯЩПЁЯП╗
[10/10, 7:31 AM] Dr Shashi Jindal:
one clinical factor which differentiates the pharmacological effect may be that sitopladi is more effective in pratilom kshaya and talishadi in aulomkshay ??
Because taleeshadi will effect on jatharagni, blood circulation(hridya), and sitopladi may effect directly on dhatwagni.?
Because taleeshadi will effect on jatharagni, blood circulation(hridya), and sitopladi may effect directly on dhatwagni.?
[10/10, 7:42 AM] Prof Giriraj Sharma:
ЁЯСНЁЯП╗ЁЯМ╖ЁЯСНЁЯП╗
рд╕िрддोрдкрд▓ाрджि рдПрд╡ं рддाрд▓िрд╕ाрджि рдЪूрд░्рдг рдХो рдЕрдиुрд▓ोрдо, рдк्рд░рддिрд▓ोрдо рдХ्рд╖рдп рдХे рдЕрдиुрд░ूрдк рдЪिंрддрди рдЬ्рдпाрджा рдЙрдЪिрдд рдк्рд░рддीрдд рд╣ोрддा рд╣ै ।
рдЬрдард░ाрдЧ्рдиि рдПрд╡ं рдзाрддрд╡ाрдЧ्рдиि рдХे рд╕ाрде рд╕ाрде ,,,,,
ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯМ╖ЁЯСНЁЯП╗ЁЯМ╖ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝
рд╕िрддोрдкрд▓ाрджि рдПрд╡ं рддाрд▓िрд╕ाрджि рдЪूрд░्рдг рдХो рдЕрдиुрд▓ोрдо, рдк्рд░рддिрд▓ोрдо рдХ्рд╖рдп рдХे рдЕрдиुрд░ूрдк рдЪिंрддрди рдЬ्рдпाрджा рдЙрдЪिрдд рдк्рд░рддीрдд рд╣ोрддा рд╣ै ।
рдЬрдард░ाрдЧ्рдиि рдПрд╡ं рдзाрддрд╡ाрдЧ्рдиि рдХे рд╕ाрде рд╕ाрде ,,,,,
ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯМ╖ЁЯСНЁЯП╗ЁЯМ╖ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝
[10/10, 7:43 AM] Dr Praveen Madikonda Ji:
ЁЯСН ЁЯСМ
Certainly it appears that Talisadi is more effective in Jatharagni Mandya and Sitopaladi at the level of Dwataagni Mandya. ЁЯСП
Certainly it appears that Talisadi is more effective in Jatharagni Mandya and Sitopaladi at the level of Dwataagni Mandya. ЁЯСП
[10/10, 7:44 AM] Shantanu Das Prof KC:
I think sir....In Talisadi Talisa patra is Gouna (Less) but Haritaki is chief...... so it is little birechaka as well kapha samaka....But Sitopaldi is vast ......From Amlapitta, Pregency, parswa shula, Usmata.... sagarbha anga sukumarata..... like this.... Working Rage is more broad....In comparison to Talisadi....ЁЯЩПЁЯП╗
[10/10, 7:44 AM] Dr Suneet Arora Ludhiana: ЁЯСНЁЯП╝ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝
[10/10, 7:44 AM] Dr Praveen Madikonda Ji:
Probable conclusions .....
Talisadi - Chronic cough ( Tb, Cr bronchitis, COPD)
Sitopaladi - Acute cough ( pneumonia, Acute bronchitis)
Talisadi - Mrudu kosta
Sitopaladi - madhyama / krura kosta
Talisadi - profound loss of Appetite
Sitopaladi. - anorexia
Talisadi. - cough associated with Diarrhoea
Sitopaladi - cough associated with chest pain
Talisadi. - Jataragni Mandya
Sitopaladi - dhatwagni mandya
Talisadi - Chronic cough ( Tb, Cr bronchitis, COPD)
Sitopaladi - Acute cough ( pneumonia, Acute bronchitis)
Talisadi - Mrudu kosta
Sitopaladi - madhyama / krura kosta
Talisadi - profound loss of Appetite
Sitopaladi. - anorexia
Talisadi. - cough associated with Diarrhoea
Sitopaladi - cough associated with chest pain
Talisadi. - Jataragni Mandya
Sitopaladi - dhatwagni mandya
[10/10, 7:46 AM] Dr Harsh Kishore: ЁЯСМЁЯСМЁЯСМЁЯЩПЁЯЩПЁЯЩП
[10/10, 7:49 AM] Dr Shashi Jindal:
no haritaki in talishadi.
Dr. Shantanu !
[10/10, 7:57 AM] Dr. Venkat Joshi UK: I
Sitopaladi...
The number one two Or any varieties of Vamsha lochan? Is synthetic in my view?
Because I could only once tasted Vamsha (naturally found white brown dry crystalloid is melting like glucose in mouth!
I don’t know any other way
Extract availability from age old Bamboo
Any opinion please..
The number one two Or any varieties of Vamsha lochan? Is synthetic in my view?
Because I could only once tasted Vamsha (naturally found white brown dry crystalloid is melting like glucose in mouth!
I don’t know any other way
Extract availability from age old Bamboo
Any opinion please..
[10/10, 7:57 AM] Shantanu Das Prof KC:
Sorry Shashi Madam .... Mistaken...ЁЯЩПЁЯП╗
[10/10, 8:08 AM] Vaidyaraj Subhash Sharma, Delhi:
*рд╡ैрдж्рдп рдпाрджрд╡рдЬी рдд्рд░िрдХ्рд░рдордЬी рдЖрдЪाрд░्рдп рдиे рд╕िрддोрдкрд▓ाрджि рдХो рд░рдХ्рддрдкिрдд्рдд рдЕрдзिрдХाрд░ рдоें рднी рд▓िрдпा рд╣ै, рдмрдЪ्рдЪो рдоें рдкुрди: рдкुрди: рд╣ोрдиे рд╡ाрд▓े рдиाрд╕ाрдЧрдд рд░рдХ्рддрдкिрдд्рдд рдоें рд╣рдо рдЗрд╕े рд╢рд░्рдмрдд рдЕрдиाрд░, рдЧुрд▓рдХंрдж рдпा рд░ूрд╣ рдЕрдлрдЬा рдоें рдоिрд▓ाрдХрд░ рджेрддे рд╣ै। рдЧрд░्рднाрд╡рд╕्рдеा рдоें рдкूрд░े рдХाрд▓ рд╣рдо рдирд╡ाрдпрд╕ рд▓ौрд╣ рдЗрд╕ी рдоें рдкीрд╕ рдХрд░ рджेрддे рд╣ै рддो Hb% рдФрд░ s calcium normal рд░рд╣рддा рд╣ै।*
*рд╕िрддोрдкрд▓ाрджि рдХी mixing рдХे рд▓िрдпे base рдЖрд╡рд╢्рдпрдХ рд╣ै рдЬैрд╕े рдордзु , рд╡िрд╖рдорднाрдЧ рдордзु+рдШृрдд рдпा рдЙрдкрд░ोрдХ्рдд рд╢рд░्рдмрддाрджि ।*
*рд╕िрддोрдкрд▓ाрджि рдХी mixing рдХे рд▓िрдпे base рдЖрд╡рд╢्рдпрдХ рд╣ै рдЬैрд╕े рдордзु , рд╡िрд╖рдорднाрдЧ рдордзु+рдШृрдд рдпा рдЙрдкрд░ोрдХ्рдд рд╢рд░्рдмрддाрджि ।*
[10/10, 8:14 AM] Vd. Aashish Kumar, Lalitpur:
ЁЯЩПЁЯП╗ЁЯЩПЁЯП╗рд╕्рд╡ाрдж рдоें рднी рдЕрдЪ्рдЫा рд▓рдЧेрдЧाЁЯе░ЁЯе░
[10/10, 9:05 AM] Prof Giriraj Sharma:
рд╕ाрджрд░ рдирдорди рдЖрдЪाрд░्рдп
рдЖрдпрд░्рд╡ेрдж рдЪिрдХिрдд्рд╕ा рдоें рдЪाрд░ рдпोрдЧ рдРрд╕े рд╣ै рдЬिрди्рд╣ें рд╣рдо рдХिрд╕ी рднी рд░ोрдЧ рдоें рдПрдХ рд╕рдкोрд░्рдЯिрд╡ рдХॉрдо्рдмिрдиेрд╢рди (рдпोрдЧрд╡ाрд╣ी рдпोрдЧ) рдХे рд░ूрдк рдоें рдк्рд░рдпुрдХ्рдд рдХрд░ рд╕рдХрддे рд╣ै ।
рдкुрдирд░्рдирд╡ा рдоंрдбूрд░/рд╕्рд╡рд░्рдг рдоाрдХ्рд╖िрдХ
рдирд╡ाрдпрд╕ рд▓ौрд╣
рдЧिрд▓ोрдп рд╕рдд्рд╡
рд╕िрддोрдкрд▓ाрджि рдЪूрд░्рдг / рдХाрдорджुрдзा рд░рд╕
рдпे рдФрд╖рдз рд╕рд░्рд╡ рдк्рд░िрдп рд▓рдЧрддी рд╣ै ।
ЁЯМ╖ЁЯМ╖ЁЯМ╖ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯМ╖ЁЯМ╖ЁЯМ╖
рдЖрдпрд░्рд╡ेрдж рдЪिрдХिрдд्рд╕ा рдоें рдЪाрд░ рдпोрдЧ рдРрд╕े рд╣ै рдЬिрди्рд╣ें рд╣рдо рдХिрд╕ी рднी рд░ोрдЧ рдоें рдПрдХ рд╕рдкोрд░्рдЯिрд╡ рдХॉрдо्рдмिрдиेрд╢рди (рдпोрдЧрд╡ाрд╣ी рдпोрдЧ) рдХे рд░ूрдк рдоें рдк्рд░рдпुрдХ्рдд рдХрд░ рд╕рдХрддे рд╣ै ।
рдкुрдирд░्рдирд╡ा рдоंрдбूрд░/рд╕्рд╡рд░्рдг рдоाрдХ्рд╖िрдХ
рдирд╡ाрдпрд╕ рд▓ौрд╣
рдЧिрд▓ोрдп рд╕рдд्рд╡
рд╕िрддोрдкрд▓ाрджि рдЪूрд░्рдг / рдХाрдорджुрдзा рд░рд╕
рдпे рдФрд╖рдз рд╕рд░्рд╡ рдк्рд░िрдп рд▓рдЧрддी рд╣ै ।
ЁЯМ╖ЁЯМ╖ЁЯМ╖ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯМ╖ЁЯМ╖ЁЯМ╖
[10/10, 9:13 AM] Vaidyaraj Subhash Sharma, Delhi:
*рдк्рд░рдгाрдо рдЖрдЪाрд░्рдп рдЧिрд░िрд░ाрдЬ рдЬी, рдРрд╕ा рд▓рдЧ рд░рд╣ा рд╣ै рдЬैрд╕े рдЖрдк рдоेрд░ा рдкूрд░ा рджрд╡ाрдЦाрдиा рджेрдЦ рдХрд░ рдпे рдмाрдд рд▓िрдЦ рд░рд╣े рд╣ै, рд╣рдоाрд░ी рддो рдЪिрдХिрдд्рд╕ा рдХे рдЖрдзाрд░рднूрдд рдпोрдЧ рд╣ी рдпे рд╣ै рдФрд░ рдЗрди्рд╣ी рд╕े рд╣рдоें рдЪिрдХिрдд्рд╕ा рдоें рд╕рдлрд▓рддा рдоिрд▓рддी рд╣ै рдФрд░ рдпрд╣ी рдпोрдЧों рдоें рд╕े рдмाрд▓рдХ, рд╡ृрдж्рдз, рдЧрд░्рднिрдгी рдХो рд╕рд░рд▓рддा рд╕े рджिрдпा рдЬा рд╕рдХрддा рд╣ै।*
ЁЯЩПЁЯЩПЁЯЩП
ЁЯЩПЁЯЩПЁЯЩП
[10/10, 9:14 AM] Prof Giriraj Sharma: ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯМ╖ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝ЁЯЩПЁЯП╝
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